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    Question Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish

    Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish in an Aquaponics System or should they have a system of their own? Has anybody tried Redclaw? This is my first post I hope I have done it correctly. I would also like to thank the administrators of this forum and the people who contribute to it.
    Goodfood.

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    Re: Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish

    Hi there Good Food,red claw go with your fish no worries.The red claw will have a crack at your fish and occasionaly might get one so it really comes down to the density of either in your tank.Red claw differ from other yabbies as they are social by nature,put 20 red claw in a bucket of water and they are all mates,put 20 of the native blue yabbies we catch around emerald and there is carnage,they really give it to each other. red claw differ also as that they don't burrow like a normal yabby so i guess they dont have to defend their territory,they are always on the move grazing,but will obviously take cover in rocks weed etc to stay safe from predators.I have about 30 combined of the 2 yabby species in a hundred litre tank happily living with 8 gold fish 2 20 cm catfish a couple of dozen shrimp and a couple of dozen gudgeons and bony bream, and have only had one half devoured fish in the last 2 weeks.they will all be going into my 2500L tank when i get my jade perch,much to their delight i bet.
    Bye Brett

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    Re: Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish

    I agree with Brett that it depends on density. Though I don't recommend polyculture of any crayfish and fish in a tank environment.

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    Re: Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusty View Post
    I agree with Brett that it depends on density. Though I don't recommend polyculture of any crayfish and fish in a tank environment.

    Why not, Crusty? Is there a compatibility problem other than occasionally attacking each other?

    Mike

    BTW, I successfully keep a couple of redclaw with a freshwater shrimp (just in a tank, not AP), and the only problem was that the shrimp lost both his long claws once. They grew back over the next couple of moults, however.

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    Re: Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish

    Hi Mike

    Poly culture of species like the jade with redclaw work perfectly well in pond conditions where the pond design allows additional depth or the fish are cage cultured. In tank culture, things get a little tight and the risk is injury to the fish more than injury to the crayfish. This is where pathogens enter the system. I too have had a tank with several hundred crayfish and a few fish in it. However all the fish showed signs of injury, if not from the crayfish attacking them but more so from bumping into the sharp bits on the crayfish.

    Your shrimp may have lost it claws from stress, not so much a crayfish or fish having a taste. Shrimp work well with crayfish because the shrimp can swim relatively fast forward which gives them an addition escape compared to the crayfish tail flick response.

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    Re: Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish

    Gee Guys thanks for your imput. May have to keep them separate.
    Thanks again Good Food

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    Re: Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish

    Has Anybody Tried To Grow Red Claw Under The Rafts Of An Aquaponic System?
    I Will Guess That The Red Claw Will Nibble In The Roots Of The Veggies...but If You Place The Red Claw In Cages Or Containers?

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    Re: Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish

    i bought 4 crayfish and put them under my raft tank. there are only 2 water hyacinths in there and they all promptly died in 2 days.
    not sure if my water quality still suffers or if there was not enough oxygen in the water. at first the water level was pretty high, about 5 inches, someone suggested that they needed to be able to get out of water and i reduced my water level to 3 inches, they still died =(
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    Re: Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish

    This is a pretty old thread, but I thought it worth mentioning that Redclaw are pretty skilled climbers and like to explore. You should take measures to prevent them escaping your tank. For those in the US who wish to keep Redclaw, keep in mind they are an exotic species and possibly highly invasive. They could potentially wipe out many of our diverse and unique varieties of native crays should they escape and make it to "the wild". The state of Missouri is extremely concerned about Redclaw, and they're working to put them on the prohibited list until they know more about them. For that reason, I've decided to wait and see what happens, even though I would really like to try them out.
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    Re: Can Redclaw be conbined with Fish

    Hi Kellen,

    I agree with your sentiments about Redclaw. They are native to my area and we love them (particularly with a nice salad) but they should stay home.

    The Signal crayfish (a US citizen) has devastated wild crayfish stocks in many part of the UK and serves as another good example of what happens when a species is translocated.

    Tilapia have been introduced into the river systems in Far North Queensland and are showing signs of becoming established in some places. This is bad news for native fish stocks.

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