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Shannon Lee
18th September 2008, 12:30 PM
BiOWiSH-Aqua™
This is something that I have been let into at an early stage. Will be available soon and I expect some samples sooner for those interested.
If any body wishes to talk about hydroponic equipment give me a email
But for now check this out.

BiOWiSH-Aqua™
Aquaculture

The importance of a good pond environment for shrimp and fish aquaculture cannot be underestimated. Stress caused by poor environmental conditions negatively affects the growth, feeding, disease resistance and ultimately the yield of the shrimp.

Aquaculture ponds tend to have difficulty controlling excess nitrates and ammonia in their confined systems. The build-up of nitrates and ammonia create toxic environments that result in high mortality rates, poor product flavour, reduced growth rates and significant loss of revenue. These problems can be controlled and higher revenues will result from the application of the BiOWiSH™ technology using BiOWiSH-Aqua™ which is a completely organic and ecologically harmless method of maintaining proper pond chemistry and environments for shrimp and fish aquaculture operations.

Below is a sample list of problems experienced by aquaculture producers that will benefit from application of BiOWiSH-Aqua™.
Problem

* High ammonia production
* High Nitrate & Nitrite levels
* Excessive sludge production
* Poor water quality
* High mortality Rates
* Low oxygen levels
* Stressful environment
* Reduced growth rates
* Diseases
* Excessive algae & scum

Beneficial Effects

* Drastic reduction of ammonia levels
* Drastic reduction of nitrogen compounds
* Removal/Prevention of bottom sludge
* Improved water quality
* Increased production
* Improved oxygenation
* Improved water quality
* Lower water toxicity and improved growth
* Reduced pathogen production


Also used in Agriculture
Agricultural

BiOWiSH-Odor™ is based on the revolutionary BiOWiSH™ enzyme/microbial based technology that has application across many areas of production and food processing to remove the most persistent and intensive odors within minutes. Specifically it is applied to:

1. Livestock
2. Cropping
3. Hydroponics
4. Aquaculture
5. Dairies
6. Abbattoirs & Rendering Plants
7. Grain Storage
8. Food Processing Plants

Core benefits of using BiOWiSH-Odor™ in these areas are:

1. High efficacy
2. Low dosages
3. Cost effectiveness
4. Operator safety
5. 100% organic

Shannon Lee
18th September 2008, 12:37 PM
Here are my details. I work mainly Mon to Wed as I am on the road at the end of the week. My Buisness partner does not know much in regard to aquaponics but can help with and hydro questions you may have.
I personally will give a 10% discount on any sales for aquaponic HQ followers.

djs-sa
18th September 2008, 01:12 PM
Hi Shannon thank for this info.

I will be interested in a sample and more info in regards to how it's used. sounds like u could help people fellow AP's with clayballs, coz ur all over east(most of u)

Shannon Lee
18th September 2008, 01:16 PM
As soon as I get more info and samples you will be first on my list.
Its a pleasure to help with such a wonderfull cause.
I will be interested in a sample and more info in regards to how it's used. sounds like u could help people fellow AP's with clayballs, coz ur all over east(most of u)[/QUOTE]

Shannon Lee
8th October 2008, 02:25 PM
Here is some more info.

BiOWiSH™ - Maintenance of Aquaculture Water Quality
BiOWiSH™ is a completely natural and ecologically harmless method of maintaining proper pond chemistry and environments for shrimp and fish aquaculture operations. Aquaculture ponds tend to have difficulty controlling excess nitrates and ammonia in their confined systems. The buildup of nitrates and ammonia create toxic environments that result in high mortality rates, poor product flavor, reduced growth rates and significant loss of revenue. These problems can be controlled and higher revenues will result from the application of BiOWiSH™.
Below is a sample list of problems experienced by aquaculture producers that will benefit from application of BiOWiSH™.
Problem
• High ammonia production
• High Nitrate & Nitrite levels
• Excessive sludge production
• Poor water quality
• High mortality Rates
• Low oxygen levels
• Stressful environment
• Reduced growth rates
• Diseases
• Excessive algae & scum
Beneficial Effects
• Drastic reduction of ammonia levels
• Drastic reduction of nitrogen compounds
• Removal/Prevention of bottom sludge
• Improved water quality
• Increased production
• Improved oxygenation
• Improved water quality
• Lower water toxicity and improved growth
• Reduced pathogen production
BiOWiSH™ is a special blend of naturally occurring bacteria and enzymes that removes nitrates and ammonia from pond water. BiOWiSH™ works in the entire water column as well as bottom sludge to break down and digest these organic wastes that are derived from animal manure and urine. These cultures are completely safe for the shrimp, fish and the environment.
BiOWiSH™ is made from human and environmentally friendly bacteria, yeast and enzymes. BiOWiSH™ bacteria together with enzymes acts to degrade specific components in the waste and their resulting intermediates until reaching non-harmful compounds such as water and carbon dioxide.
By adding BiOWiSH™ to the pond water, a living system of biologically active seed culture, enzymes, activators and accelerators developed specifically for aquaculture ponds is established. The BiOWiSH™ microbes populate the entire system, multiply and produce large quantities of digestive enzymes on an ongoing basis.
The bacterial cultures will break down ammonia (from urine) to form nitrate and nitrites which are reduced to nitrogen gas. Similarly the nitrate-rich manure in the pond is broken down to non-hazardous materials. Unless treated with bacteria, these manures form oxygen-depleting bottom sludge. These reactions give the bacteria both the energy and nutrients they require to grow and reproduce.
The bacteria utilize dissolved oxygen in their digestive processes. However, by removing the undesirable organic materials noted above and reducing B.O.D. (Biological Oxygen Demand) in the aquatic system, ultimately more oxygen will be available to shrimp and fish since less will be required for the oxidation of organic materials. The use of BiOWISH™ will not adversely affect a well-aerated pond.
Algae also require nitrogen as a critical element for growth. Note, however, that there are some species of blue-green algae that utilize atmospheric nitrogen and are not controlled by bacteria. These blue-green algae are less common than other algal types.
High levels of ammonia and manures in ponds cause off-tasting product, low oxygen levels, stressfully toxic environments, potential release of pathogens and excess pond scum and algal growths. These poor growing conditions, in turn, create high mortality rates of produce and reduce commercial profitability. All these conditions are significantly remedied by the use of BiOWiSH™. Hence reduce the need and costs for disinfectants and antibiotics.
How to calculate the amount of BiOWiSH™ you need:
1. Estimate the surface area of the pond in sq. meters. (One acre is 4,047 sq. meters, or 43,560 sq. ft.)
2. Estimate the average pond depth in meters. (One meter is 3.3 feet. Estimate a bit high if unsure)
3. Multiply the surface area in sq. meters times the average depth in meters. The result is the pond volume in cubic meter.
4. Initial treatment – mix 1-2 kg in 100 cubic meter area.
5. Follow-up treatment – mix 1 kg in 100-300 cubic meter area every week.
Recommend that BiOWiSH™ be added to the pond either every two weeks or every week as works best for your application. Generally we believe more frequent dosing provides better results than less frequent dosing, i.e. smaller dosing intervals are better.
Conversions you may need for Metric system:
• 1 Acre = 43,560 sq. feet
• 1 Gallon = 8.345 pounds
• 1 Acre = 4,407 sq. meters =0.405 Hectares
• 1 Metric Ton - 1,000 Kilograms = 2,205 pounds = 0.0067673 Acre-Feet
• 1 Pound = 453.6 Grams
• 1 Pound = 16 Ounces
• 1 Ounce = 28.35 Grams
• 1 Acre-Foot = 43,560 cu. ft. = 325,829 gallons
• 1 Cubic Meter = 264.2 gallons
• 1 Meter = 3.281 feet

gtpratt
8th October 2008, 07:58 PM
BiOWiSH™ is a special blend of naturally occurring bacteria and enzymes that removes nitrates and ammonia



Forgive my naivety, but dont we want to encourage the creation of NitrAtes for our plants to eat and produce those lovely green leafy veges?

This product states that it will convert the waste ultimately into a gas (which one presumes is wated to the air).

This sounds ideal if you are not using the Nitrates such as Aqua culture.

Kindest regards.

Gra.:confused:

Murray
9th October 2008, 12:41 AM
It would appear to me that this product would be counter productive in an aquaponics system.
The beauty of aquaponics is that it does not have some of the problems that aquaculture has.
And we do not want to add chemicals to our systems.

BiOWiSH™ is made from human and environmentally friendly bacteria, yeast and enzymes.I find this claim very troubling....... adding human bacteria.??? .:confused:

In Aquaponics we are trying to keep things as natural as possible, there is not the need to tinker with things and start adding chemicals to a functioning system.


Below is a sample list of problems experienced by aquaculture producers that will benefit from application of BiOWiSH™.
This statement shows clearly that the product does not apply to Aquaponics.
The list of problems and benefits that are listed immediately below the above statement just do not apply to Aquaponics

Shannon Lee
9th October 2008, 09:31 AM
The use of this product is for systems where overstocking of fish or understocking of plants have occored. In a perfect system no one wants to add unesessary products. Thats why we do aquaponics and not hydroponics, agreed. In high density farming it reduces toxicity especially in prawn the farming industry.
And its not a chemical or human bacteria, but human safe bacteria and enzimes.

Due to the reaction I will not do any more on this subject.

echidna
9th October 2008, 09:34 AM
I'd agree that the aquaculture product is unsuitable for aquaponics as it is primarily designed to off-gas the ammonia as nitrogen. However, they do have some other interesting products listed on the main website http://www.biowishtechnologies.com/index.html

An example is the grease trap enzyme, if it's cheaper than a suck-truck I'd be prepared to give it a trial. They have a distributor in Wacol so I'll give them a call.

What's annoying is that the CSIRO was doing a lot of research into microbial remediation in the late '60's, early '70's and it was shut down as "pure research is worthless".

djs-sa
9th October 2008, 09:57 AM
Hi Shannon,
I would be very interested as I will always have more fish, marron and yabbies in my tanks than I will have growspace for vegies, so my system will be always overstocked in relation to grow bed volumes.

PM me if u want mate, as people dont want to know about it thats thier problem.

urea is just as bad, if murray and the likes dont add any chemicals why dont u cycle without using urea, small amounts of fish and dont rush.

Murray
9th October 2008, 12:17 PM
Hi ,
There have been PM's sent to the original poster about using the site to advertise their business or product.
We are happy to carry advertising for approved products or businesses for a fee.
Like any forum this one costs several hundred dollars a year to run. So it is very reasonable for us to expect to recover some costs if a business wants to sell or promote their product or business.

The product is not directly applicable to Aquaponics and some have expressed that opinion. That is fine.

The thread is an open attempt to advertise their business and product. The post is not by a third party that may have discovered this product and posted as a matter of information for the members.

I Pm'd the poster and informed them not persist with the post unless they are happy to pay a small advertising fee. The post would have then been moved to a clearly marked advertising area.

The poster has ignored or forgotten the Pm's we have sent.

We will leave the thread up for a few mare days out of courtesy to allow the poster to make some arrangement. If none is made we will take a decision about the matter.

Lets be careful not to get personal or nasty in expressing our opinions.

As a matter of interest, I don't like the idea of using urea to cycle my sustems and have done it only once just as an experiment to see how well it works.....and it worked just fine.
Those that want to do that and find it works for them....that is fine....it is a method that obviously works....but it is not my prefered method.

Murray

Shannon Lee
9th October 2008, 12:26 PM
can you please remove this post and my account details from your system
I do appologise for oversteping the sites rules and in my reply to your pm i gave you the offer to remove the post. as you did not I thought you had reconsidered.
Once again i do appologise.

djs-sa
9th October 2008, 04:52 PM
Free Speech Isnt It Murray Why Edit My Post

Delete My Account Also

Im With Shannon On This 1 U Left The Post Up Murray So Ur Bad Luck If Ur Tight Asking For Advertising Fees Why Bother Running The Site Then????

gtpratt
9th October 2008, 04:53 PM
Hi there djs-sa,

Please forgive me if I have overstepped my bounds, I am only interested in learning as much as I can and hopefully helping others in the same light.



Hi Shannon,
I would be very interested as I will always have more fish, marron and yabbies in my tanks than I will have growspace for vegies, so my system will be always overstocked in relation to grow bed volumes.

It seems to me that it could be very advantageous for you to have a system that includes a sub branch to remove the extra chemicals (Nitrates) where needed the only problem I see is that if the bacteria get into your main system and become virilant (sp?) then they may stop the release of Nitrites into Nitrates which your grow beds are going to use. I am not a micro biologist but the logic of what I just wrote seems sound to me.

Therefore you may need to sterilise the water before returning it to your main system so you dont get the Nitrate to Gas bacteria into the main system.


why dont u cycle without using urea, small amounts of fish and dont rush.

Summer is nearly upon us down south and I need to get my cycle up as soon as I can so I can buy some fingerlings Hmmmm fish ......

Mate I just piddled into mine, I definately have introduced chemicals AND human bacteria (:))

Please dont think that my question is in anyway an attack. ( I am too old for that kind of thing).

I also note that you have some really good information in your many posts and I only wish I had you knowledge and experience.

Kindest regards.

Gra.:D

djs-sa
9th October 2008, 09:17 PM
Gtpratt Nothing With U At All Murray Erased Some Of My Post Which Is My Thourghts So Why Remove It And It Aint The First Time Either

Jonathan Dyer
10th October 2008, 06:18 AM
I haven’t been getting involved in this discussion from the start but have been following it keenly nor do I feel that my comments should stick and will probably make this episode of ‘Home and Away’ worse, I must make myself very clear I do not intend to offend anyone whatsoever having said that unfortunately Murray; Shannon and Dale have my support, I believe that Shannon has joined the best Aquaponics discussion forum in the world to help others with sincere intentions, his knowledge would be valuable to the group and I think that the below post have not been a marketing scheme on Shannon’s behalf more an introduction that members such as Dale and myself would find helpful if we were further interested we would contact Shannon on private message or other means I do not see a problem with this. This topic had the potential to be one of a key discussion platforms where every side of the story could be investigated further given some trials were performed on say Dale’s and my system if this ever occurred but now is unlikley.

Look Murray I’m not trying to offend but is it possible that you could reconsider your stance on this topic and Dale please don’t leave us here, Shannon I understand if you decide to leave I wish you all the best.

Regards,

Jonathan Dyer

Murray
10th October 2008, 07:10 AM
Hi JD,
Thanks for your input.
Our policy re advertising is not unreasonable. We want to keep the forum free of uncontrolled advertising.
One of the reasons we keep the membership list hidden is to prevent people joining the forum then using the membership list to peddle their brand of Viagra or whatever.
I delete up to 15 new members a day who start their life here trying to insert links to sites that have porn or pills or both.
When this thread appeared I PM,d Shannon L.....We had a pleasant exchange of info. I decided to leave the thread as it was then. But we made it clear re our advertising policy.
We have decided to leave the thread as it is at the moment....It's no big deal really, but things can easily get out of hand if the brakes are not applied early.
Gary and I really don't mind at all if someone opens a Hydro shop, or an AP shop or something, and posting a notice about it, but there has to be a cut off point.
We try to do our best to have a good clean and informative Forum....so we don't expect to have members chucking little tanties if the brakes are applied gently from time to time.
Express an opinion by all means, as you have just done. We make mistakes from time to time like every body else.

It costs us many hundreds of dollars a year and hundreds of hours reading each and every post, and be assured we make no money out of the forum. Gary may have sold one or two books as a result and I may have sold a grow bed or two, but it would be so small a personal benefit it is impossible to measure.
I have been very polite about the matter.
If a person posts rude or angry comments we will delete them. It is a simple as that....Have followed that policy from day one. Gary and I have had to delete each other in the past....:o:o:o

Members can debate as hard as they like......strong opinions are good.....you have some pretty strong opinions from time to time JD...:)....but it is not good for the forum family if rude, personal or aggressive posts are made.

If some wish to resign their membership, that is up to them....but my advise to them is to go and make a cup of tea, calm down, then keep on posting and enjoying the Forum for what it is, A place where private individuals have a healthy exchange of ideas about backyard food production in general, and AP in particular.

The way things are going world wide at the moment, this forum and ones like it will become very important repositories of knowledge. Hundreds of thousands of people will want to know how to grow as miuch of their own food as possible, by whatever means possible.
AP in all its many variants is a great way to provide for your family.

Hamish
13th October 2008, 09:32 PM
I hope no one leaves. Take it from someone who has been on the receiving end of a dodgy forum in the past it is just not worth the stress. Dont take anything personally if a post is deleted - it has happened to me and in hind sight I can see why. I have even deleted my own posts that I have had second thoughts about. We are all here to help each other out as best we can. Hang around - we are all mates here.

Jackalope
14th February 2009, 06:28 PM
..... A place where private individuals have a healthy exchange of ideas about backyard food production in general, and AP in particular.

The way things are going world wide at the moment, this forum and ones like it will become very important repositories of knowledge. Hundreds of thousands of people will want to know how to grow as miuch of their own food as possible, by whatever means possible.
AP in all its many variants is a great way to provide for your family.
That's why I'm here, to learn from you all ....... When you get to the age that no one will hire you, and all you have is Social Security, you will thank folks like these who run the forums that will teach you how to survive in a crappy economy, rather than ask what you think about the latest flock of bad movies. I appreciate this and other ap/hp forums that help me to understand the technology a little better. Thanks for this forum :D :D